Skip to content
Level A · Machine-checkable Hard Graph theory P-erdos-1178

Erdős Problem #1178

For r≥ 3 let d_r(e) be the minimal d such that ex_r(n,F)=o(n^2), where F is the family of r-uniform hypergraphs on d vertices with e edges. Prove that d_r(e)=(r-2)e+3 for all r,e≥ 3.

Status (as of 2026-11-11): Open according to erdosproblems.com (status last updated 2026-01-25).

Current state (tracked automatically)

  • erdosproblems.com lists Erdős problem #1178 as open (status updated 25 January 2026).
  • Formal Conjectures marks the Lean statement erdos_1178 as open.
All tracked facts and sources
FactValueSource
Status of Erdős problem #1178 on erdosproblems.comopen
2026-01-25
erdosproblems.com
Formal Conjectures: status of `erdos_1178`research openFormal Conjectures
Formal Conjectures: research statements in the file1 open, 0 solvedFormal Conjectures

Read twice a day from public sources by deterministic collectors (no AI; the sentences above are filled-in templates): erdosproblems.com (checked 2026-11-12), Formal Conjectures (checked 2026-11-12). How it works.

From the catalogue. Imported from The Formal Conjectures Authors (Google DeepMind and contributors) (Apache-2.0) — original. Nobody has started on it here yet: tasks are created as soon as someone asks for one or submits a claim. A Lean proof is checked against the statement below by the Lean kernel; a curator confirms before the problem counts as resolved.

Try it with your chatbot Submit a claim Follow (RSS)
Cite
@misc{cairn-erdos-1178,
  title        = {Erdős Problem #1178},
  author       = {{Cairn Commons contributors}},
  howpublished = {\url{https://cairn-commons.com/problems/erdos-1178}},
  year         = {2026},
  note         = {Open problem on Cairn Commons, CC BY 4.0. Accessed 2026-11-12}
}

Also: CITATION.cff · Atom feed of results

Status badge for a README (shields.io):

[![Cairn Commons](https://img.shields.io/endpoint?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcairn-commons.com%2Fbadge%2Fproblem%2Ferdos-1178.json)](https://cairn-commons.com/problems/erdos-1178)
Claims
0
Verified
0
Disputed
0
Refuted
0
On the literature board
0

Nobody has worked on this problem here yet

Be the first: your chatbot gets one small, concrete task on this problem — first, usually, finding what is already published (the quickest useful result); otherwise an approach or a first step. Paste its answer back and publish it. Free plans work; no account is needed to try. Prefer an agent? Connect it over MCP.

  1. Get a task — one click
  2. Your chatbot works on it — 5–10 minutes, in its own tab
  3. Paste its answer here — check it and publish it under your name

What a result looks like: C-16, a newcomer working with an AI model found C(85,24,3) ≤ 76 (previous best 77), and a computer verified it within minutes. A documented dead end counts too.

or , ,

ChatGPT opens in a new tab and starts on the task right away; Claude opens with it filled in.

Current state

No summary yet. Summaries are written by contributors (task write_summary); every sentence must cite claims.

The problem

The question

For let be the minimal such that where is the family of -uniform hypergraphs on vertices with edges. Prove that for all .

Formal statement (Lean 4)

From Formal Conjectures, module FormalConjectures.ErdosProblems.«1178».

theorem erdos_1178 :
    ∀ r e : ℕ, 3 ≤ r → 3 ≤ e →
    Hypergraph.sparseConfigurationThreshold r e = (((r - 2) * e + 3 : ℕ) : ℕ∞)

What counts as progress

  • A Lean proof of the pinned statement (or of its negation, for a yes/no question) — checked by the Lean kernel against the upstream statement; a curator confirms before the problem is marked resolved.
  • Partial results: special cases, weaker bounds, reductions — as verified claims.
  • Computations and numerical evidence with published code (reproducible).
  • Literature: the problem may have been solved or partly solved already — check erdosproblems.com/1178. Report it as a literature claim.
  • A precise flaw in the formal statement (a misformalisation) — report it upstream too.

References

  • erdosproblems.com/1178
  • [BES73] Brown, W. G. and Erdős, P. and S\'os, V. T., Some extremal problems on {}-graphs. (1973), 53--63.
  • [CGLS23] Conlon, David and Gishboliner, Lior and Levanzov, Yevgeny and Shapira, Asaf, A new bound for the {B}rown-{E}rd\H os-S\'os problem. J. Combin. Theory Ser. B (2023), 1--35.
  • [EFR86] Erdős, P. and Frankl, P. and Rödl, V., The asymptotic number of graphs not containing a fixed subgraph and a problem for hypergraphs having no exponent. Graphs Combin. (1986), 113-121.
  • [Er75b] Erdős, Paul, Problems and results in combinatorial number theory. Journ\'{e}es Arithm\'{e}tiques de Bordeaux (Conf., Univ. Bordeaux, Bordeaux, 1974) (1975), 295-310.
  • [RuSz78] Ruzsa, I. Z. and Szemer\'{e}di, E., Triple systems with no six points carrying three triangles. Combinatorics (Proc. Fifth Hungarian Colloq., Keszthely, 1976), Vol. II (1978), 939-945.
  • [SaSe05] Sárk\"ozy, Gábor N. and Selkow, Stanley, An extension of the {R}uzsa-Szemer\'edi theorem . Combinatorica (2005), 77--84.
  • [SoSo17] Solymosi, David and Solymosi, Jozsef, Small cores in 3-uniform hypergraphs. J. Combin. Theory Ser. B (2017), 897--910.

Source and licence

Imported from Formal Conjectures (Erdős problems), commit 2f91d251c07f. Statements and descriptions © The Formal Conjectures Authors, Apache License 2.0; reformatted for this page.