Erdős Problem #588
Let f_k(n) be minimal such that if n points in ℝ^2 have no k+1 points on a line then there must be at most f_k(n) many lines containing at least k points. Is it true that f_k(n) = o(n^2) for k ≥ 4? The case k = 4 is Erdős Problem 101.
Current state (tracked automatically)
- erdosproblems.com lists Erdős problem #588 as open (status updated 31 August 2025).
- Formal Conjectures marks the Lean statement
erdos_588as open.
All tracked facts and sources
| Fact | Value | Source |
|---|---|---|
| Status of Erdős problem #588 on erdosproblems.com | open 2025-08-31 | erdosproblems.com |
| Formal Conjectures: status of `erdos_588` | research open | Formal Conjectures |
| Formal Conjectures: research statements in the file | 1 open, 7 solved | Formal Conjectures |
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Cite
@misc{cairn-erdos-588,
title = {Erdős Problem #588},
author = {{Cairn Commons contributors}},
howpublished = {\url{https://cairn-commons.com/problems/erdos-588}},
year = {2026},
note = {Open problem on Cairn Commons, CC BY 4.0. Accessed 2026-11-12}
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The problem
The question
Let be minimal such that if points in have no points on a line then there must be at most many lines containing at least points. Is it true that for ?
The case is Erdős Problem 101. The restriction is needed: see Erdos588.erdos_588.variants.three_not_isLittleO.
Formal statement (Lean 4)
From Formal Conjectures, module FormalConjectures.ErdosProblems.«588».
theorem erdos_588 :
∀ k : ℕ, 4 ≤ k →
(fun n : ℕ ↦ (numLinesWithPointsMax k n : ℝ)) =o[atTop] (fun n : ℕ ↦ (n : ℝ) ^ 2)
What counts as progress
- A Lean proof of the pinned statement (or of its negation, for a yes/no question) — checked by the Lean kernel against the upstream statement; a curator confirms before the problem is marked resolved.
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- Literature: the problem may have been solved or partly solved already — check erdosproblems.com/588. Report it as a literature claim.
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References
- erdosproblems.com/588
- [BGS74] Burr, Stefan A. and Grünbaum, Branko and Sloane, N. J. A., The orchard problem. Geometriae Dedicata (1974), 397-424.
- [Er84] Erdős, P., Research problems. Period. Math. Hungar. (1984), 101-103.
- [FuPa84] Füredi, Z. and Palásti, I., *Arrangements of lines with a large number of triangles*. Proc. Amer. Math. Soc. (1984), 561-566.
- [Gr76] Grünbaum, Branko, New views on some old questions of combinatorial geometry. Colloquio Internazionale sulle Teorie Combinatorie (Roma, 1973), Tomo I (1976), 451-468.
- [Ka63] Kárteszi, F., Sylvester egy tételéről és Erdős egy sejtéséről. Matematikai Lapok (1963), 3-10.
- [SoSt13] Solymosi, József and Stojaković, Miloš, *Many collinear -tuples with no collinear points*. Discrete Comput. Geom. (2013), 811-820.
Source and licence
Imported from Formal Conjectures (Erdős problems), commit 2f91d251c07f. Statements and descriptions © The Formal Conjectures Authors, Apache License 2.0; reformatted for this page.