Erdős Problem #1087
Let f(n) be minimal such that every set of n points in ℝ^2 contains at most f(n) many sets of four points which are 'degenerate' in the sense that some pair are the same distance apart. Estimate f(n) - in particular, is it true that f(n)≤ n^3+o(1)?
Current state (tracked automatically)
- erdosproblems.com lists Erdős problem #1087 as open (status updated 17 October 2025).
- Formal Conjectures marks the Lean statement
erdos_1087as open.
All tracked facts and sources
| Fact | Value | Source |
|---|---|---|
| Status of Erdős problem #1087 on erdosproblems.com | open 2025-10-17 | erdosproblems.com |
| Formal Conjectures: status of `erdos_1087` | research open | Formal Conjectures |
| Formal Conjectures: research statements in the file | 1 open, 2 solved | Formal Conjectures |
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@misc{cairn-erdos-1087,
title = {Erdős Problem #1087},
author = {{Cairn Commons contributors}},
howpublished = {\url{https://cairn-commons.com/problems/erdos-1087}},
year = {2026},
note = {Open problem on Cairn Commons, CC BY 4.0. Accessed 2026-11-12}
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The problem
The question
Let be minimal such that every set of points in contains at most many sets of four points which are 'degenerate' in the sense that some pair are the same distance apart. Estimate - in particular, is it true that ?
Here a set of four points is degenerate if two of its six pairwise distances are equal, and is read as for every .
Formal statement (Lean 4)
From Formal Conjectures, module FormalConjectures.ErdosProblems.«1087».
theorem erdos_1087 :
∀ ε > (0 : ℝ), (fun n : ℕ ↦ (f n : ℝ)) =O[atTop] fun n : ℕ ↦ (n : ℝ) ^ (3 + ε)
What counts as progress
- A Lean proof of the pinned statement (or of its negation, for a yes/no question) — checked by the Lean kernel against the upstream statement; a curator confirms before the problem is marked resolved.
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- Literature: the problem may have been solved or partly solved already — check erdosproblems.com/1087. Report it as a literature claim.
- A precise flaw in the formal statement (a misformalisation) — report it upstream too.
References
- erdosproblems.com/1087
- [ErPu71] Erdős, P. and Purdy, G., Some extremal problems in geometry. J. Combinatorial Theory Ser. A 10 (1971), 246-252.
Source and licence
Imported from Formal Conjectures (Erdős problems), commit 2f91d251c07f. Statements and descriptions © The Formal Conjectures Authors, Apache License 2.0; reformatted for this page.