Ben Green's Open Problem 72
The no-k-in-line problem: For which k > 2 does every N × N grid with N ≥ k contain a set of (k - 1) N points with no k on a line, so that AllowedSetSize k N is the pigeonhole bound (k - 1) N?
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@misc{cairn-green-72,
title = {Ben Green's Open Problem 72},
author = {{Cairn Commons contributors}},
howpublished = {\url{https://cairn-commons.com/problems/green-72}},
year = {2026},
note = {Open problem on Cairn Commons, CC BY 4.0. Accessed 2026-09-28}
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The problem
The question
NoKInLine. The no-k-in-line problem: For which does every grid with contain a set of points with no on a line, so that AllowedSetSize k N is the pigeonhole bound ?
[GK2025] proves that every has this property, which is no_k_in_line_big below, and does not optimise this constant. At it is the property that Green expects to fail for large , see green_72.
green_72. Green's Open Problem 72 / No-three-in-line problem: For sufficiently large, is it impossible to have points in with no three in a line? Green suspects the answer is yes, and that is optimal.
More commonly known as the no-three-in-line problem.
What is the largest subset of the grid with no three points in a line? In particular, for sufficiently large, is it impossible to have a set of size with this property?
The upper bound is the easy half and is allowedSetSize_le below, by pigeonhole on the columns. The open content is whether is attained. Green records that it is for up to around 50, that points are achievable for arbitrary , and that his "personal suspicion is that this is optimal". The Wikipedia reference points the same way: Guy and Kelly conjectured , and after an error in the heuristic was found Guy corrected it to . Both are below , so the expected answer to the question above is yes.
Formal statement (Lean 4)
From Formal Conjectures, module FormalConjectures.GreensOpenProblems.«72» (2 statements). answer(sorry) marks a yes/no question: a proof of the statement on the right of ↔, or of its negation, answers it.
theorem NoKInLine : answer(sorry) = {k | 2 < k ∧ ∀ N, k ≤ N → NoKInLineFor k N}
theorem green_72 : answer(sorry) ↔ ∀ᶠ N in Filter.atTop, ¬ NoKInLineFor 3 N
What counts as progress
- A Lean proof of one of the statements above, pinned as the claim's formal statement.
- Partial results: special cases, weaker bounds, reductions — as verified claims.
- Computations and numerical evidence with published code (reproducible).
- Literature: the problem may have been solved or partly solved already. Report it as a literature claim.
- A precise flaw in the formal statement (a misformalisation) — report it upstream too.
Variants
green_72.variants.eventually— Is 2N attained for all sufficiently large N? This is not the negation of green_72.
References
- Ben Green's Open Problem 72
- Wikipedia
- [GK2025] Grebennikov, A. Kwan, M. No -in-line problem for large constant . https://arxiv.org/abs/2510.17743
Source and licence
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