Ben Green's Open Problem 5
Which finite groups have the smallest biggest product-free sets? We formalise this as: determine the supremum of exponents α such that every nontrivial finite group of order n contains a product-free set of size ≥ c n^α for some absolute constant c > 0.
Current state (tracked automatically)
- Formal Conjectures marks the Lean statement
green_5as open.
All tracked facts and sources
| Fact | Value | Source |
|---|---|---|
| Formal Conjectures: status of `green_5` | research open | Formal Conjectures |
| Formal Conjectures: research statements in the file | 2 open, 2 solved | Formal Conjectures |
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@misc{cairn-green-5,
title = {Ben Green's Open Problem 5},
author = {{Cairn Commons contributors}},
howpublished = {\url{https://cairn-commons.com/problems/green-5}},
year = {2026},
note = {Open problem on Cairn Commons, CC BY 4.0. Accessed 2026-11-12}
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The problem
The question
Which finite groups have the smallest biggest product-free sets?
We formalise this as: determine the supremum of exponents such that every nontrivial finite group of order contains a product-free set of size for some absolute constant . (The trivial group is excluded since its only product-free subset is empty.) Kedlaya [Ke97] showed that is admissible, and Green suggests this exponent may well be sharp; the candidate extremal family is the Ree groups , .
Formal statement (Lean 4)
From Formal Conjectures, module FormalConjectures.GreensOpenProblems.«5».
theorem green_5 :
IsLUB {α : ℝ | ∃ c > (0 : ℝ), ∀ (G : Type) [Group G] [Fintype G], Nontrivial G →
∃ S : Finset G, IsProductFree (S : Set G) ∧
c * (Fintype.card G : ℝ) ^ α ≤ (S.card : ℝ)}
green_5.answer
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Variants
green_5.variants.sl_two— A good model problem would be to determine the largest product-free subsets of SL_2(𝔽_p).
References
- [Gr24] Green, Ben. "100 open problems." (2024).
- [BaSo85] Babai L, Sós VT. Sidon sets in groups and induced subgraphs of Cayley graphs. European Journal of Combinatorics. 1985 Jun 1;6(2):101-14.
- [Ke97] Kedlaya, K. S., Large product-free subsets of finite groups, J. Combin. Theory Ser. A 77 (1997), no. 2, 339–343.
- [Ke09] Kedlaya, K. S., Product-free subsets of groups, then and now, Contemp. Math., 479, American Mathematical Society, Providence, RI, 2009, 169–177.
- [Go08] Gowers, W. T., Quasirandom groups, Combin. Probab. Comput. 17 (2008), no. 3, 363–387.
Source and licence
Imported from Formal Conjectures (Ben Green's 100 open problems), commit 2f91d251c07f. Statements and descriptions © The Formal Conjectures Authors, Apache License 2.0; reformatted for this page.