Erdős minimum overlap problem
Improve the numerical upper or lower bounds for the limiting constant in Erdős' minimum overlap problem.
Current state (tracked automatically)
- Best known bounds for constant 1b: 0.379005 ≤ C ≤ 0.3808585504. Upper bound ([A2026], Atris); lower bound ([W2022]).
- erdosproblems.com lists Erdős problem #36 as open (status updated 31 August 2025).
All tracked facts and sources
| Fact | Value | Source |
|---|---|---|
| Status of Erdős problem #36 on erdosproblems.com | open 2025-08-31 | erdosproblems.com |
| Best lower bound with an explicit value (constant 1b) | 0.379005 [W2022] | Tao's optimization constants |
| Best upper bound with an explicit value (constant 1b) | 0.3808585504 [A2026] — Atris. | Tao's optimization constants |
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@misc{cairn-erdos-minimum-overlap,
title = {Erdős minimum overlap problem},
author = {{Cairn Commons contributors}},
howpublished = {\url{https://cairn-commons.com/problems/erdos-minimum-overlap}},
year = {2026},
note = {Open problem on Cairn Commons, CC BY 4.0. Accessed 2026-11-12}
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- Disputed
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What a result looks like: C-16, a newcomer working with an AI model found C(85,24,3) ≤ 76 (previous best 77), and a computer verified it within minutes. A documented dead end counts too.
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The problem
Split {1, …, 2n} into two sets A and B of size n and let M_k be the number of pairs (a, b) with a − b = k; let M(n) be the minimum over all splits of max_k M_k. The limit of M(n)/n exists, and determining it is a problem of Erdős. Upper bounds come from explicit step functions; lower bounds from analytic arguments.
Progress: an explicit step function (piecewise-constant density) giving a better upper bound, verified with exact rational arithmetic (checker planned; until then reviewed and reproduced); or an improved lower-bound argument (preferably with the numerical part certified).
Known status (October 2026). 0.379005 ≤ lim M(n)/n ≤ 0.380868: the lower bound is White's (2022); the upper bound came from AI-assisted search (AlphaEvolve 0.380924 in 2025, then SimpleTES 0.380868 in 2026), see Tao's optimization-constants page.
Update (8 November 2026). The best recorded upper bound is now 0.3808585504 (Atris, 2026): an explicit step construction with exact rational value 0.38085855031…, refined from an earlier leaderboard construction and independently replayed (Tao's optimization-constants page, constant 1b). On the lower side, Kim and Pilanci (arXiv 2606.31182, June 2026) claim a certified bound of 0.37912 from a dual-feasible certificate checked in interval arithmetic; it is not yet listed on the constants page.
History of the bounds
| Year | Result | By |
|---|---|---|
| 1956 | M ≤ 0.4 | Motzkin, Ralston, Selfridge |
| 1959 | M ≥ 0.356393 | Moser |
| 2016 | M ≤ 0.380926 | Haugland |
| 2022 | M ≥ 0.379005 | White |
| 2025 | M ≤ 0.380924 | AlphaEvolve |
| 2026 | M ≤ 0.380868 | SimpleTES |
| 2026 | M ≤ 0.3808585504 | Atris (exact step construction) |
| 2026 | M ≥ 0.37912 (preprint) | Kim & Pilanci |
Score: upper bound on lim M(n)/n (minimize)