Erdős Problem #713
Is it true that, for every bipartite graph G, there exists some α∈ [1,2) and c>0 such that ex(n;G)∼ cn^α? The condition that G have at least two edges excludes degenerate forbidden graphs whose extremal number is eventually zero, for which the displayed asymptotic with c>0 is impossible.
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@misc{cairn-erdos-713,
title = {Erdős Problem #713},
author = {{Cairn Commons contributors}},
howpublished = {\url{https://cairn-commons.com/problems/erdos-713}},
year = {2026},
note = {Open problem on Cairn Commons, CC BY 4.0. Accessed 2026-09-29}
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The problem
The question
erdos_713.parts.i. Is it true that, for every bipartite graph , there exists some and such that
The condition that have at least two edges excludes degenerate forbidden graphs whose extremal number is eventually zero, for which the displayed asymptotic with is impossible.
erdos_713.parts.ii. Must be rational?
The same nondegeneracy condition on is used as in part (i). Rationality means that the real number lies in the image of the canonical embedding .
Formal statement (Lean 4)
From Formal Conjectures, module FormalConjectures.ErdosProblems.«713» (2 statements). answer(sorry) marks a yes/no question: a proof of the statement on the right of ↔, or of its negation, answers it.
theorem erdos_713.parts.i : answer(sorry) ↔
∀ (q : ℕ) (G : SimpleGraph (Fin q)), G.IsBipartite → 2 ≤ G.edgeFinset.card →
∃ α c : ℝ, α ∈ Set.Ico 1 2 ∧ 0 < c ∧
Asymptotics.IsEquivalent atTop
(fun n : ℕ => (extremalNumber n G : ℝ))
(fun n : ℕ => c * (n : ℝ) ^ α)
theorem erdos_713.parts.ii : answer(sorry) ↔
∀ (q : ℕ) (G : SimpleGraph (Fin q)), G.IsBipartite → 2 ≤ G.edgeFinset.card →
∀ α c : ℝ, α ∈ Set.Ico 1 2 → 0 < c →
Asymptotics.IsEquivalent atTop
(fun n : ℕ => (extremalNumber n G : ℝ))
(fun n : ℕ => c * (n : ℝ) ^ α) →
α ∈ Set.range ((↑) : ℚ → ℝ)
What counts as progress
- A Lean proof of one of the statements above, pinned as the claim's formal statement.
- Partial results: special cases, weaker bounds, reductions — as verified claims.
- Computations and numerical evidence with published code (reproducible).
- Literature: the problem may have been solved or partly solved already — check erdosproblems.com/713. Report it as a literature claim.
- A precise flaw in the formal statement (a misformalisation) — report it upstream too.
References
- erdosproblems.com/713
- [Er67d] Erdős, P., Some recent results on extremal problems in graph theory. {R}esults. (1967), 117--123 (English); pp. 124--130 (French).
- [ErSi70] Erdős, P. and Simonovits, M., Some extremal problems in graph theory. Combinatorial theory and its applications, I-III (Proc. Colloq., Balatonfüred, 1969) (1970), 377-390.
- [FrFu87] Frankl, P. and Füredi, Z., Exact solution of some Turán-type problems. J. Combin. Theory Ser. A (1987), 226--262.
- [FuGe21] Füredi, Zoltán and Gerbner, Dániel, Hypergraphs without exponents. J. Combin. Theory Ser. A (2021), Paper No. 105517, 9.
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