Erdős Problem #660
Let x_1, …, x_n ∈ ℝ^3 be the vertices of a convex polyhedron. Are there at least (1 - o(1)) n/2 many distinct distances between the x_i?
Current state (tracked automatically)
- erdosproblems.com lists Erdős problem #660 as open (status updated 31 August 2025).
- Formal Conjectures marks the Lean statement
erdos_660as open.
All tracked facts and sources
| Fact | Value | Source |
|---|---|---|
| Status of Erdős problem #660 on erdosproblems.com | open 2025-08-31 | erdosproblems.com |
| Formal Conjectures: status of `erdos_660` | research open | Formal Conjectures |
| Formal Conjectures: research statements in the file | 2 open, 1 solved | Formal Conjectures |
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Cite
@misc{cairn-erdos-660,
title = {Erdős Problem #660},
author = {{Cairn Commons contributors}},
howpublished = {\url{https://cairn-commons.com/problems/erdos-660}},
year = {2026},
note = {Open problem on Cairn Commons, CC BY 4.0. Accessed 2026-11-12}
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- Disputed
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- Refuted
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- On the literature board
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The problem
The question
Let be the vertices of a convex polyhedron. Are there at least many distinct distances between the ?
The lower bound is formalised as: for every , every set of vertices of a convex polyhedron with sufficiently large determines at least distinct distances.
Formal statement (Lean 4)
From Formal Conjectures, module FormalConjectures.ErdosProblems.«660».
theorem erdos_660 :
∀ ε : ℝ, 0 < ε → ∀ᶠ n in Filter.atTop, ∀ P : Finset ℝ³,
P.card = n → IsPolyhedronVertices P →
(1 - ε) * ((n : ℝ) / 2) ≤ (distinctDistances P : ℝ)
What counts as progress
- A Lean proof of the pinned statement (or of its negation, for a yes/no question) — checked by the Lean kernel against the upstream statement; a curator confirms before the problem is marked resolved.
- Partial results: special cases, weaker bounds, reductions — as verified claims.
- Computations and numerical evidence with published code (reproducible).
- Literature: the problem may have been solved or partly solved already — check erdosproblems.com/660. Report it as a literature claim.
- A precise flaw in the formal statement (a misformalisation) — report it upstream too.
Variants
erdos_660.variants.Er75f— In [Er75f] Erdős claims that Altman proved that the vertices determine ≫ n many distinct distances, but gives no reference.
References
- erdosproblems.com/660
- [Er97e] Erdős, Paul, Some of my favorite problems and results, The mathematics of Paul Erdős, I (1997), 47–67.
- [Al63] Altman, E., On a problem of P. Erdős, Amer. Math. Monthly (1963), 148–157.
- [Er75f] Erdős, Paul, On some problems of elementary and combinatorial geometry, Ann. Mat. Pura Appl. (4) (1975), 99–108.
Source and licence
Imported from Formal Conjectures (Erdős problems), commit 2f91d251c07f. Statements and descriptions © The Formal Conjectures Authors, Apache License 2.0; reformatted for this page.