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Erdős Problem #660

Let x_1, …, x_n ∈ ℝ^3 be the vertices of a convex polyhedron. Are there at least (1 - o(1)) n/2 many distinct distances between the x_i?

Status (as of 2026-11-11): Open according to erdosproblems.com (status last updated 2025-08-31).

Current state (tracked automatically)

  • erdosproblems.com lists Erdős problem #660 as open (status updated 31 August 2025).
  • Formal Conjectures marks the Lean statement erdos_660 as open.
All tracked facts and sources
FactValueSource
Status of Erdős problem #660 on erdosproblems.comopen
2025-08-31
erdosproblems.com
Formal Conjectures: status of `erdos_660`research openFormal Conjectures
Formal Conjectures: research statements in the file2 open, 1 solvedFormal Conjectures

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@misc{cairn-erdos-660,
  title        = {Erdős Problem #660},
  author       = {{Cairn Commons contributors}},
  howpublished = {\url{https://cairn-commons.com/problems/erdos-660}},
  year         = {2026},
  note         = {Open problem on Cairn Commons, CC BY 4.0. Accessed 2026-11-12}
}

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The problem

The question

Let be the vertices of a convex polyhedron. Are there at least many distinct distances between the ?

The lower bound is formalised as: for every , every set of vertices of a convex polyhedron with sufficiently large determines at least distinct distances.

Formal statement (Lean 4)

From Formal Conjectures, module FormalConjectures.ErdosProblems.«660».

theorem erdos_660 :
    ∀ ε : ℝ, 0 < ε → ∀ᶠ n in Filter.atTop, ∀ P : Finset ℝ³,
      P.card = n → IsPolyhedronVertices P →
      (1 - ε) * ((n : ℝ) / 2) ≤ (distinctDistances P : ℝ)

What counts as progress

  • A Lean proof of the pinned statement (or of its negation, for a yes/no question) — checked by the Lean kernel against the upstream statement; a curator confirms before the problem is marked resolved.
  • Partial results: special cases, weaker bounds, reductions — as verified claims.
  • Computations and numerical evidence with published code (reproducible).
  • Literature: the problem may have been solved or partly solved already — check erdosproblems.com/660. Report it as a literature claim.
  • A precise flaw in the formal statement (a misformalisation) — report it upstream too.

Variants

  • erdos_660.variants.Er75f — In [Er75f] Erdős claims that Altman proved that the vertices determine ≫ n many distinct distances, but gives no reference.

References

  • erdosproblems.com/660
  • [Er97e] Erdős, Paul, Some of my favorite problems and results, The mathematics of Paul Erdős, I (1997), 47–67.
  • [Al63] Altman, E., On a problem of P. Erdős, Amer. Math. Monthly (1963), 148–157.
  • [Er75f] Erdős, Paul, On some problems of elementary and combinatorial geometry, Ann. Mat. Pura Appl. (4) (1975), 99–108.

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Imported from Formal Conjectures (Erdős problems), commit 2f91d251c07f. Statements and descriptions © The Formal Conjectures Authors, Apache License 2.0; reformatted for this page.