Turan's pure power sum constant
The constant C_42 is limsup_n→ inftyR_n, where R_n=minmax_1≤ k≤ n lvert Σ_1≤ i≤ nz_i^krvert, where the minimum is taken over all z_1,…,z_n∈ ℂ with max_i lvert z_irvert=1.
Current state (tracked automatically)
- Best known bounds for constant 42a: 0.5 ≤ C ≤ 0.6873358063. Upper bound (Koshta [Kos2026], Exact 6873358063/10000000000), not yet independently verified; lower bound (Biró [Bir94]).
- The best independently verified upper bound is 0.69368 (Harcos [Bir00]).
All tracked facts and sources
| Fact | Value | Source |
|---|---|---|
| Best lower bound with an explicit value (constant 42a) | 0.5 Biró [Bir94] | Tao's optimization constants |
| Best upper bound with an explicit value (constant 42a) | 0.6873358063* Koshta [Kos2026] — Exact 6873358063/10000000000. | Tao's optimization constants |
| Best upper bound with an explicit value, independently verified (constant 42a) | 0.69368 Harcos [Bir00] | Tao's optimization constants |
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@misc{cairn-constant-42a-turan-s-pure-power-sum-constant,
title = {Turan's pure power sum constant},
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year = {2026},
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The problem
Description of constant
The constant is , where where the minimum is taken over all with .
Known upper bounds
| Bound | Reference | Comments |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Trivial | |
| 5/6 | Biró [Bir00] | |
| 0.69368 | Harcos [Bir00] | |
| 0.6906538* | Griego [Gri26] | Proposed asymptotic two-block certificate with exact rational interval verification of the limiting inequality. No explicit finite threshold is supplied. |
| 0.6888863712* | Pinho [Pin26] | Exact ; 256 uniform middle blocks with and . Rational profile: SHA-256 705a729155eb508878d17ebea0322627a0ae02451c044a346a99d2e81c7afcab. Separate interval (100 decimal places, 240 terms) and Arb (768 bits, 400 terms) checks give . Unrefereed analytic asymptotic reduction; no explicit finite threshold, optimality or formal verification claimed. |
| 0.6873358063* | Koshta [Kos2026] | Exact . The coefficient-cancellation construction of [Gri26] (with the step profiles of Röhrig, Plata and PR #251), but with the first-block cut-off lowered from to . Then up to four corrections reach , and the limiting quantity gains the terms , where ; the criterion of PR #251 holds verbatim for every with the corresponding -fold terms (). 64 uniform middle blocks on , . Rational profile SHA-256 be0c406fb2bf58f18a3ecb070daab97b662ec63318d9a83606c2117b8e16cbef. and most are evaluated by exact-rational Dirichlet series with explicit tail bounds, the remaining by a validated 1-D integral; Arb (384 and 640 bits) gives , and an independently written checker agrees. Unrefereed analytic asymptotic reduction; no explicit finite threshold, optimality or formal verification claimed. |
Known lower bounds
| Bound | Reference | Comments |
|---|---|---|
| 1/6 | Atkinson [Atk61] | |
| Atkinson | Mentioned in [Atk69] in a (presumably unpublished) technical report. | |
| Atkinson [Atk69] | ||
| 1/2 | Biró [Bir94] | |
| >1/2 | Biró [Bir00b] | Biró's proof delivers some computable constant , but it is not computed there exactly which. |
Additional comments
- Computational investigations by Cheer and Goldston [CG96] suggest that is close to .
- is the optimal constant for Erdős problem #519.
References
- [Atk61] Atkinson, F. V. On sums of powers of complex numbers. Acta Math. Acad. Sci. Hungar. 12 (1961), 185-188.
- [Atk69] Atkinson, F. V. Some further estimates concerning sums of powers of complex numbers. Acta Math. Acad. Sci. Hungar. 20 (1969), 193-210.
- [Bir94] Biró, A. On a problem of Tur\'{a}n concerning sums of powers of complex numbers. Acta Math. Hungar. 65 (2000), no. 3, 209-216.
- [Bir00] Biró, A. An upper estimate in Tur\'{a}n's pure power sum problem. Indag. Math. (N.S.) 11 (2000), no. 4, 499-508.
- [Bir00b] Biró, A. An improved estimate in a power sum problem of Tur\'{a}n. Indag. Math. (N.S.) 11 (2000), no. 3, 343-358.
- [CG96] A. Y. Cheer and D. A. Goldston Tur\'{a}n's pure power sum problem. Math. Comp. 65 (1996), no. 215, 1349-1358.
- [Gri26] Griego, S. An improved asymptotic certificate for Turan's pure power sum constant . GitHub repository, version
v1.0.0, commitc8ddce14d9a5e898406d5dc6b8d08bb8a39507c7(2026). https://github.com/sebastian-griego/turan-c42-certificate/tree/v1.0.0 - [Kos2026] Koshta, Dennis, with Claude (Anthropic, Claude Opus 5.5). Lowering the first-block cut-off in the coefficient-cancellation bound for Turán's pure power-sum constant. Unrefereed note, exact certificate and checkers: https://github.com/DennisKoshta/c42-turan-power-sum-certificate (commit
8e1797e0d35454ad18cfebbbeb5858bf202b0748, 23 Oct 2026).
- [Pin26] Pinho, R. A 256-step certificate for Turán's pure power-sum constant. Unrefereed note (22 October 2026), paper, exact profile and two separately implemented checkers: https://github.com/rpinho/c42-certificate/tree/a8a9bc309bd1992413fa07595bd60c5e3fa1b65b
What counts as progress
- A better upper or lower bound, with a proof or a construction whose value is re-computed by published code (reproducible), ideally with a certificate a deterministic checker can validate.
- A formal proof (Lean) of a known bound, or a precise error in a claimed one.
- New references for the tables above (literature claims).
Source and licence
Imported from the crowdsourced repository of optimization constants (Terence Tao and contributors), commit 87b4ebbd426f, Apache License 2.0; reformatted for this page. New records should also be reported there.